I would of rather take the word literally than follow the world. If you compromise too much with the world, satan gets in and anything can happen thats why the word says to stay vigilant. If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. If your church funnels in inner city kids via a bus ministry, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 24. We only care when we see new faces in the church, whether guests or new members. 43. 46. Do you realize this was written as humorous piece ? Do you find them so humorous ? If you think that tattoos are marks of the Devil, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 20. Jesus says that if you love Him, that you will keep His words.. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. 2Co 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. ), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 41. The pastor our local congregation is the preaching elder and most Churches of Christ avoid the term, Pastor, when addressing their ministers. They are counting on your service and tithe. I can forgive people for offenses committed against me. However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. (Hello to all my fellow-tithers!!!) Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: All fellowship should be grounded in doctrine. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. I believe tithing is good and God blesses those who tithe. For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthyfull of greed and self-indulgence! I want to respond to your #30. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). You might be a hypocrite if you dedicate a whole website to exposing deception while using it.??? WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical Jesus saved by dying on the cross in my husbands place. All people need to do is humbly ask for one. Thanks for being thankful for the grace God has giving us. I did learn a lot. If your church as at least 2 Revivals per year, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Just please be sure that your judging is fair. Jesus said I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.. Judah has always been with God. A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. IFB Singles Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. So, are you happy about that, or wanting to change? They simply do not know and probably lack the ability to do the research, but Cyril I. Scofield was a Confederate soldier who left his wife and two children and later remarried another woman. (Acts 2:41-47; 1 Corinthians 12:12,18; 2 Corinthians 6:14; Hebrews 10:23-25), Scripture mandates two offices for the local church: Pastor and Deacon. I was sincerely disappointed. Its pure manipulation. I survived the Christian fundamentalist world - Baptist News If people asked rather than assumed there would be a lot less reactions. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If I couldnt tolerate anyone saying something different I would instruct the site moderator to delete comments such as yours. This is very good. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. We ARE the church my friend! If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. I only hope that you will see it before too long. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. Jesus will save you if you believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead and admit out loud that Jesus is your lord. Wow! They act like childern, but my church loves them because Jesus loves them. Most Americans dont understand that there are flavors of Baptist Christianity, everything from liberal to hardcore Fundamentalist. That being said, your list is probably only funny to those of us who have lived it. If you believe that the IFB isnt a denomination because they are Independent, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 37. Some true, some not so much. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. I am a pastor of a Baptist church, but rather than call myself INDEPENDENT, I call myself unaffiliated with the other Baptist Churches. Please get away from the IFB as far as you can, as fast as you can. 20 When you swear by the altar, you are swearing by it and by everything on it. Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. If you refuse to use any other Bible version than the KJV because you think its either too worldly, sinful or less accurate,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 4. I have scriptures on my walls that are from other versions. Independent Baptist - Wikipedia Hmm, I cant think of a better word to describe the workings of the IFB! I get the vibe that you were alienate by IFB movement at some point, as were a lot of us, but dont try to use that as an excuse to go on a crusade against fellow believers. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. Fellowship, guidance, and encouragement of the local church family are essential for believers to maintain an unwavering testimony and a meaningful life of service. Growing up in a very conservative IFB church, I can personally attest to how accurate most of these were. If you think anything what the churches teach about salvation is easy believing this is not true in our congregation. Neither should control the other. If that doesnt raise red flags for you I dont know what will. But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. ALL sins are forgivable, even homosexuality although it is a detestable sin in Gods eyes. You might Very few men are qualified to be pastors using your interpretation of scripture. The two are completely unrelated. Also, we lived in a free Appartement with food stamps. He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. All churches are full of sinful people, including the pastor. We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. When you discover that female is indeed wearing the acceptable dress, skirt or koulotts youre so relieved to know that shes right with God ! I love this!! While I dont have a general opinion on this, I do believe that we should discipline our kids in the same sense that God disciplines us. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading , The KJV isnt the inspired word of God. 15 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I dont believe my husband was the only one hurting the relationship. If your child is behaving like a child but you think they are rebellious, misbehaving, mischevious, etc. The church never knew our problems but god did. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Many of those things actually do go on at IFB churches, but several of those things are Biblical. Thats not unique to the IFB. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. While I have no opinions on this I do agree that wives, from a biblical view, should be submissive to their husbands because its found in Ephesians 5:22-23: 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. Independent Fundamental I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. 23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. I think I find it more funny how you all think it IS funny and Im just over here secretly judging your jeans ;b, But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter. 30 Then you say, If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would never have joined them in killing the prophets.. I believe this passage is a description of the IFB church Im a member of. I have no opinion on this (II Corinthians 12:12; I Corinthians 13:8; Hebrews 2:3-4; Mark 16:17-20; I Corinthians 1:22, 14:21-22). On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. As far as tithing is concerned, the people who do tithe, it should be because they tithe because they want to. God works in mysterious ways. I believe being separate is doing what God has commanded you to do. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. That apparently is what Christ would do. Lastly, I cant really respond to the think that theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse because I have no idea where thats coming from in my initial post. Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse? Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. My mother doesnt wear fancy earrings. (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. Church membership is a necessary privilege for believers who follow Christ. 1. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). Even I believe that if you are living in sin you are getting to the point where you are eventually will lose your salvation. No member shall For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. We believe the Blessed Hope of our Lord's return is literal, personal, visible, imminent, premillennial, and pretribulational. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin. Theres a lot that is biblical in your post that we should want to do and some not biblical and therefore should abstain from practice. anything that even remotely appears to be worldly means that you arent being separate, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 44. Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! Back then, you had to wear your Sunday best. your comments are offensive, you are narrow minded. Also, please scroll up for additional information regarding your objections which Ive responded to ad nauseam. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 31. It uses the Bible to treat everything from porn addiction Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. (Acts 2:42), It is a betrayal of the unity of believers based upon sound doctrine of the historic Christian Faith. 22. Its the inspired word of God. Israel was the prodical.. judah is the elder son that was jealous of israel.. Study The prodigal son and the two houses of Israel. God speaks to individuals through His Word and His Spirit. You strain your water so you wont accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel! It is awful that they put the rules and instructions of their mythology ahead of their love for It made me think of this, Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; Its a shame, but whattayagonnado? We believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, were temporary. God forgave my husband through Christ. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Three words vacation bible school *shiver*. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. 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Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. or any combination of the above isnt really saved because of that/those behavior(s), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 52.