[quote]2. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation.
FREE 3D MODELS for Blender (And how to use them) - YouTube Better for who? A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. CGT is the only website that really understand both the artists and customer needs! This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. In the long run I'm going to quit selling on TS also. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway?
The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. If the assumption is correct that a client goes to TS by default as a reflective action, "huh, there's another site, didn't know that! i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company. That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. What? So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. It is the best RR in the world ! NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. . I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. To my repliers:
- Do you prefer to do business with companies that takes the most profit from your products in exchange for a short-term higher revenue? I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. i think they both have there place . I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png
If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune.
Animated and Rigged 3D Finger Models | TurboSquid That's just an easy question to answer 1. That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. Hopefully that would make squids to react. Cgtrader really goes above and beyond with the customer service side of things. If I am searching for a 3D model, I am not interested in 3D printing services, and vice versa. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc.
Free 3D Models Download: The Best Sites for 2023 | All3DP Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing].
3D Modeling Jobs | CGTrader It is also wise to invest in good ideas that are future proof. Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that). They have more traffic so i'm told. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. Delhi Escort Order 3D models. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Realistic Female 3D Model. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. Turbosquid just has it backwards. So my own experience on sales is of little value. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Like when something breaks that is no longer in production like your favorite mug or something. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! This is a bit OT, but although I obviously ain't a squidguild member, I always try to design objects that are "checkmate" compliant to be sure that my models are OK, and I also beta test the .OBJ version in a lot of other applications that LW to be sure that they upload without hassle) This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. I like the concept of CGtrader very much, hope to see the duality issues resolved. I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? Thank you again! ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. People are followers they have always been and always will be. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). And I've done the same thing on Turbosquid, in the same period of time. They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. Is the same for me as everyone else. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Renderosity. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. You are just providing a platform." CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. As a game developer i will never buy a 3d models online since 95% are done on student version of software or pirated version. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. It also seems to me like CG trader is looking out a lot more for the artists. When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". Ps. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. The Ts model does not support such thing and is not up to the task of modern time needs for this industry. And saying only nice words won't help them much. Spider-Man (Rig) for Maya Shaders is a new section that we recently added.
Abdulhamid Saeed Aziz's Post - LinkedIn Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS Animated Lion 3D Model 14. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. i like the points system on cg trader . I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. I believe this would solve the 'bad content mixed with the quality models' problem. Why should the artist suffer? What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. When I asked why they don' want pay for that they have suspended my products ( 428) products they did not say anything after. (e.g. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the . My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts.
what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know.
Free 3D Models - Download Free 3D Models 3DExport While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. In this case the fastest support can not help. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. TS is simply in decline getting worse and worse. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. Build your own Brand with your own criteria and goals. A man can dream on :]. I'm done with them. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer.