Thank you for stopping by the site. We all stumble over our words sometimes. Its more secure. Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! They are looking for exactly 43 seconds of audio that BG recorded. He has reportedly filed a plea of not guilty and is being held without bond. As if her murder itself wasn't mysterious enough, the case would see twists, turns, and dead ends along with mysteries within the mystery. That leads me, and others more knowledgeable than me, that there was SOMETHING with the bodies (possibly posed)that local LE thought there could be a serial killer. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. Theres no woman among them. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? Only a few seconds of the 43-seconds long recording have not been made public. Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*. Im not sure about that, but its an interesting idea! I will say that Libbys birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Did the girls have wet clothes where they were found? Thanks. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. I like some of these guys. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victims phone is proven. Libby and Abby went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. These idiot cops. The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killers clothes in blood. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. I have an official case document here in my hand. Classy. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. My understanding was that an FBI agent was visiting family in Delphi and assisted in the search when he heard about it (as it is a very small town, most people heard about the girls missing that night and the search the night they failed to return); FBI agent assists in search as essentially a volunteer, and when it becomes apparent by late night - early morning that there may be something more sinister than the girls simply getting lost, he assisted with request of local authorities (as is required unless it is w/in FBI jurisdiction, as this was not) with getting the FBI to the scene the next morning. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. Yes it is all speculation. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. They always came home. I am 100% behind you. (The person from the FB post that is) their bodies were quite close to water. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Well, guess what? They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? Almost zero. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. Both investigators were women. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. 242? The warrant, obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast and released to Indianapolis FOX59, offered no further detail on what the souvenir was, although it did say that 'the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered,' implying that the killer had taken something they'd been wearing. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. You dont have LE sources. I see hot, humid conditions. Only a deer kit looks just like that. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. They werent that close. That makes no sense. We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. He cant even drive a car! Bob Matlock, owner of the now-closed Jessies Bar & Grill, said Richard Matthews Allen and his wife were regular customers, often talking about the murders of 14-year-old Liberty Libby German and 13-year-old in 2017. LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Im getting, at the home!. Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. There was posing. Anyway, where you at with this case now? However, there was one little problem. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. We obtained this document via a public records request. He is currently serving life in prison for his St. Louis crime. Not sure of the significance here. The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. The trail in Delphi, Indiana, where Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. There are 244 comments there. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. You might consider joining us in our private group. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. Thats why he has those Packers boots on. I strongly believe them to be fake. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. For example, a rape victim being naked from the waist down and legs splayed might invoke shock but the victim was not posed specifically to shock- just left as is. We believe him. We dont do that on here and never have. We do indeed have documents from the case. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. Oh, one more thing. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. Lawyered up, not talking. Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? It was dusty and disheveled. 9) He has killed before. Dads not talking. Garrett said he hopes investigators went to all of the local gun stores to see their records of sales of .40-caliber-type weapons. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. The motive was sexual. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. The girls bodies were discovered on his property - just1,400 from his house - and it was revealed over the summer that his alibi for the day of the murder did not line up. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. I tend to agree. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. If u could see one, u could see the other. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. Hi folks! Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. According to Leaker, this is correct. The manner of death has never been revealed. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. What is this guy, another Zodiac? Long, 22 pages. Please help me out here. Nations was connected to the Delphi murder because of the similarities between the crimes, and because he bore a strong resemblance to the preliminary police sketch of the Delphi suspect. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. Some new info here. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. BG is a 50 year old man. Of course she did. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files? There is a press conference on Monday at 10 a.m. We will say more. Put the competing theory to the logic test. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides. Makes no sense at all. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. On March 5 th ,1987 Shirley Bailey went to visit her . Yes, they would be looking for it, because if you know computers etc. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. Thats not very many. Aaron Keller May 17th, 2022, 8:19 pm. She says if the girls help with her filing work, she . The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. Its not free though. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. The act of leaving a victim's body in an unusual position is a conscious criminal action by an offender to thwart an investigation, shock the finder and investigators of the crime scene, or give perverted pleasure to the killer. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. A blogger/sleuthed named Robert Lindsay supposedly has one on his site, there's a camera flashing on it. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. I must have the wrong name for your POI? I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries.