A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. Other reputations are unaffected. The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. Mayor is the only one who don't want to take part in any crime because he himself was a crime fighter, get put to the jail because he's too hardcore. This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. Quests That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. Fallout: New Vegas location Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Huh. This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. *shrugs*. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. Hostile is different. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Or would I just have to wait until later and take care of it by myself? I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. At the beginning of the game, i sided with the Town Of Goodsprings against the powder gangers and everytime i try to go to the NCRCF i get shot at and i cant ally with them. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. -spoilers-. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. I can still walk into their towns, trade, etc. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Donate doses of either Med-X, Fixer, RadAway (+1 per dose, up to +3 at a time if the maximum amount of multiple doses are given at once). I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Flatter Caesar by asking how to serve "the mighty Caesar" further when talking again after dealing with the, Teach Decanus Severus at Cottonwood Cove how to make, Defeat the two slaves in the arena during. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. Terminals At least one remaining brahmin was saved (+4). Info Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. Buildings The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. He is a mild-mannered ex-sheriff who will engage in conversation with the player character. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). (Really early spoilers, I guess? There are two cellblocks located within the courtyard. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." . The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. It worked for me. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. Helping the town is the more moral choice. ), So I've always sort of helped Ringo out in this mission but this time I decided to help the Powder Gangers. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. Down the line I guess he'll probably give you a job or something but I don't imagine it'd pay much more than Powder gangin', the advantage is that you dont destroy EZ Pete's current mortal shell, Easy Pete can suck my 5.3 inch , I gotta a new Dynamite Daddy. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). All rights reserved. Helping them is way better than help good springs. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. Joe Cobb): Stealing chems on the table in the warden's office gives the player character infamy with the Powder Gangers, even if they are all dead. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Best. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. Press J to jump to the feed. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. Credits Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. Snipers form an effective perimeter around the facility. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. Side with powder ganger for profit ?it's nope for me tho. Warden's terminal New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Map marker He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. I don't think they attack you until you've been villified. In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. What do I do now? Doctors 1. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. Other than it being the starting area of the game it's pretty boring imo. Blew up the monorail, but failed to frame a. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. Fallout: New Vegas. 102. Fallout: New Vegas side quest Ghost Town Gunfight Powder Gangers attacking Goodsprings Location Goodsprings Given by Trudy Ringo Rewards 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company) 150 XP Goodsprings fame +12 Powder Gangers infamy +12 Factions Goodsprings Powder Gangers Related quests Run Goodsprings Run Technical Editor ID NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. EVE adds energy weapons to Joe Cobb's gang. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. I wouldn't bother. Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. If you need to kill them, do it while hidden. He sells chems and a few odds and ends. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. Gangers quest is buggedbadly. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Since he is not part of the Powder Ganger faction, he will not attack even if the Powder Gangers in the room become hostile. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. As part of the first quest mentioned above, an NCR hit squad will approach and warn to improve reputation with the NCR within three days. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. ? If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. If the player character becomes Vilified with the Powder Gangers, they will not be able to enter the facility without its inhabitants turning hostile. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! NCR Correctional Facility Inhabitants I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. Quests [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. Best way to do their storyline is to do it before the goodsprings quest or get everything for the people of goodsprings and have them kill the powder gangers. The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. Several functions may not work. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. Appearances It is also possible to position the player character on the cliff at the southeast side of the facility and perform a running jump over the fence to avoid the entrance fee. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Valve Corporation. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. I mean disappeared too. For more information, please see our Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. The unlocked room next door has a copy of Lying, Congressional Style on the desk. The leader of the local Powder Gangers, Eddie, will be killed if one sides with the NCR or can be saved if they help the Powder Gangers. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. Defend the NCRCF from the NCR attack, keep Eddie alive (+12). Overview Understaffed. Cookie Notice I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. Or alienate them. 3 Nygmus 1 yr. ago The powder gang boss in the prison is a nice source of free dynamite forever if you make friends with them. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. Weird. New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. I've done the goodsprings side many times and still did powder gangers quests and walked freely through their territory. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. I think that may be by design. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. They are going after the wrong objective. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Basically the same problem I had. The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. I tend to have the same problem with the Legion as well. They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. You can get infamy with the Powder Gangers, and if have a mod that fixes the bug where the Powder Gangers faction wasn't given evil karma, you can steal from them without a karma penalty. A positive reputation is required to receive the. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. -Find Vault 19 and complete the quest there. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. and they're playing poker! --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. One of the many mining car collections found in the facility, State prison sign before the turn off to the NCRCF. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . Shunned basically means they don't want anything to do with you, but not more than that. Karma generally doesn't matter. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. This happened to me when I was vilified. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. Im not very far into the game but restarting would reset lots of progress. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare!