Overview You should speak to Trudy here at the bar, as well the general store owner, Chet, and Easy Pete (as you'll need his dynamite). [3][5] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel were present at the site, killed the warden and established their own rule. V19 guys just wanted me to clear out some geckos in the lower level. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. The second person on your list should be Chet at the general store directly next to the Prospector Saloon. The Powder Gangers are one of the most gutted factions in the game everyone knows that, so I decided to polish them a little bit and add in some more flavor to their quests. I've replayed NV multiple times and never knew the Powder Gangers had quests. Head to Primm and seek out either Johnson Nash or Lt. Hayes. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. [11] The Brotherhood of Steel dislike them due to interfering with patrols near and in Hidden Valley. About this mod. ], Nipton terminal entries; Mayor Steyn's terminal, Testing, Q&A session with Josh Sawyer during a live charity stream. Appearances Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. - More Troopers and more powder gangers at the NCRCF. Just speaking with him and letting him know what you're about to be up against will net you several Stimpaks. In the distant past, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female prison. Doing so ends the mod questline early and is mostly included for RP purposes. So, head back to Poseidon Energy (the gas station), where you'll find Ringo once more. Well, if they want rampage, I will give it to them! If you're viliied you can't. But more importantly, none of them matter. He is the man sitting behind the desk on the second floor, surrounded by guards. Eddie The reward for Down in the Basement has been scaled down from 1500 caps to a more reasonable 500. But I am sure somehow there is a way. There is also the ability to recruit Victor to assist and this lightens the load further. It won't. Fallout New Vegas has a command console that can be accessed with the backquote/tilde key (the `/~ key), which will trigger a command input menu to appear on your screen. Discount medical supplies are now added to Chet upon taking the relevant quest, preventing conflicts with mods that edit his inventory. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYakRU58_cCan You Beat Honest Hearts Without Taking Any Damage? Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. So, if this was gonna take a long time, I might as well install a few mods to make it more interesting. Log in to view your list of favourite games. The Karma system is , best to just ignore it because the way it works Robin Hood would be the ultimate badguy and some psycho who murders everyone would have good karma. However, they also have a large arsenal of guns; some stolen, others looted from dead NCRCF guards. Adds a new fully-voiced quest chain where the player takes on work for a new Powder Ganger group that wants to reorganize the faction as a legitimate enterprise in the Mojave. I was kind of surprised they weren't mad since I was at the lowest level of hate with the faction. With an Intelligence of 6 or Speech skill of 30, one can convince him to reveal that he is actually a bounty hunter by pointing out that he lacks a pack brahmin to carry supplies and protection. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. One will gain Powder Gangers fame +12. Fear the Reaper is, from what my beautifully marbled brain understood it to mean, supposed to give you a perk every level at the cost of your health dropping to 10% when you level up. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Valve Corporation. Can I wipeout Boomers and powder gangers from Mojave by nuke?I did Yes man and killed almost every faction like khans,Nuked NCR and legion,killed brotherhood of steel. I mean, you can still do the one for the powder gangers with Cook at the uh other location. It's from out here that crap will hit the fan with the bad guys associated with Cobb. If the prior options fail, the merchant can be killed without Karma penalty. Have you ever wanted to be a stylish convicted felon in a post apocalyptic wasteland? HQ He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. I payed of the first guy at the gate and he tells me to carry on in, 1 second later e aggro's on me. Finally, go back and visit with your old friend Doc Mitchell. This game was very rushed and karma was just one of the things they didn't get to implement or cut. Report back to Eddie with information on the NCR's planned attack. Wielded by Silva himself. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The Courier was also being given the option to free Chavez from the prison. If one wants to be certain to complete the quest, (and not intervene), one will have to visit each cell block, otherwise the NCR will just kill the Powder Gangers in the yard, then the Admin building. Most people just call it NCRCF. You kids arent gonna know what Im talking about, but I printed out a list of every named NPC in New Vegas onto paper and stapled it into a bundle of paper thatd been stapled together by someone with a stapler. If one has low Intelligence when reporting to Eddie after dealing with the bounty hunter, the player character will say "I got rid of the bunny hunter.". Becuase you're technically stealing from the NCR. Removed a good amount of unused space in the Westside headquarters. You don't need the Powder Gangers' help to steal everything in Goodsprings that isn't nailed down, and you benefit from keeping the doctor and shopkeeper alive so that you can get medical care and buy ammo. NCR Correctional Facility Wear a powder ganger outfit to get in the prison. Kill the suspicious merchant and return to Eddie, defending the prison. Working On The Chain Gang - Expanded Powder Gangers | New Vegas Mods Al ChestBreach 470K subscribers Subscribe 1.1K 27K views 1 year ago A brand new expansion for the Powder Ganger. The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. Some assets in this file belong to other authors. The first thing we need to come to an understanding of is what constitutes killing everyone? Youll have two encounters with them in Nipton, but youve essentially neutered the faction. Also reduced number of hostile raiders in the finale by 25%. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I wanna create a vegas without any gods or masters.I nuked the NCR and Legion in lonesome road dlc, killed brothehood of steel in NCR quest maybe,killed the khans. Requirements. Personally I didn't know that there was any other option but to kill them all when I first played the game, I kept thinking "damn this is a hard mission for being so early in the game" as I had to use all of my ammo and dynamites to get them down. Job letters in HQ disable after their relevant quest is finished. You are now done with your optional tasks, and can then get down to the more pressing issue at hand. New, unique textures have been added for all unique weapons in the mod! Eddie's Emissary The slightly longer answer would be that you obviously can't do any quests given by the Powder Gangers now. Quest chain Press J to jump to the feed. . But hey, i'm not here to judge. It's also not consistent -- sometimes killing guys will unmark their property as owned, sometimes not. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVBrUXGpWkCan You Beat Fallout 3 as a Baby? Marked several NPC corpses as Quest Items, preventing them from despawning on cell reset. Added Wild Wasteland sound to WW triggers. Only much later did I realize you can actually just talk to them. [8][9], There are several groups of loosely organized Powder Gangers that organized quickly after the prison break. The NCR did increase their sentences, and they aren't about to take off time for good behavior. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background Update for the boys, this is a more accurate way to fix it using console command: Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. [citation needed], The group engaged in commerce with establishments in Nipton. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Kids are like members of my discord server, theyre now allowed to die and Yes Man respawns infinitely. Society He then sends the player character to the Red Rock Canyon to meet with the Great Khans, where the player has to convince Papa Khan to let the Powder Gangers in the vault join the Khans. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. NCR fame, 300 XPORPowder Gangers fame, 200 XP, 100 caps, 1 Mentats, 1 Psycho, 1 Buffout Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Could just install the Spy Perk mod by VampireMonkey as that lets you pose as a legitimate member of any Faction with 30 Sneak, Level 4 and Faction Armor. You made your choice when you got into the middle of a fight that wasn't your business. If the player character reports back to Eddie, he will reward them with 1 Buffout, 1 Psycho, 1 Mentats, 100 caps, and 200 XP. Powder Gangers in the scattered camps are hostile to the player character until Neutral or Shunned reputation is established, avoid killing them loudly to be able to speak to Eddie initially. This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. All rights reserved. Having a sprint mod usually helps. Those brave or foolish to remain were killed or crucified by the merciless Legionaries. What happened is: Guards can recognize you even if you're wearing faction armor, so that's why Dawes goes hostile. Seriously recommended. Upon initiating dialogue with him, he will give the player character a short "briefing," and the assault will begin. Fixed an issue where Hannigan and Carter could cause game lag. 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Guns, Lockpick, Medicine for skills, Ill come back to this in a second, I chose Bruiser and Fear The Reaper as my traits, and was let loose into the world. 00101F42 Made some edits that remove conflicts with The Living Desert innately (renders patch redundant). It is possible that Hayes and some of the troops under his command were sent to Hope, and that is why some troops at Forlorn Hope say that they got reinforced by troops from Primm. 20. Unfortunately, in our playthrough, we didn't have a 25 in either category, but you may be different. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Added lip sync to some lines missing it. Follow Trudy's advice and seek out this Ringo character, who has apparently holed himself up in Goodsprings' dilapidated gas station, due just west of the Prospector Saloon. Changes the Powder Gangers outfits to look a little bit better. 0008D0E3. Once combat is finished and your are [HIDDEN], re equip the PG armor and go back to loot Dawes' corpse for the key. DETAILS. If one wants to help the Powder Gangers or sit back and let the. Since you usually don't side with the person you plan on siding against I never considered it, so is there some other way to get the quest or are cheats my only hope at this point? Once information has been acquired, one can either report back to Eddie or betray him to Lt. Hayes, and help the NCR take back the prison. Not a bug. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281. All rights reserved. Fallout: New Vegas side quest If you have anything at your disposal from anyone else, now's the time to use all of those goods. We'll leave the gas station posthaste to do so now, but first, be sure to grab the Boxing Times Magazine from the shelf in the gas station en route. The ending slide will act like you never interacted with the Prison at all. Talk to Eddie and ask if he has any work. Hi everyone. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. After you speak with Trudy at the Prospector Saloon at the end of the side quest known as By a Campfire on the Trail, you'll learn a bit about a brewing conflict between someone named Ringo, and someone named Joe Cobb. In case someone will still read this, I have found the solution for the Powder Ganngers, and how to make them neutral even after them becoming Vilified. NCR FTW, Nice then haha but imma do the ncr ending. Every name on the 17 page pamphlet has to be crossed out for the challenge to be a success.My stats were based around being an effective killing machine. Note ownerships fixed (credit to TwilightKhan and MagnuMspec), Added behavior packages to Krieger in North Vegas, Polished NPC patrol packages and spawn scripts, Edited Finale NPC factions to reduce instances of friendly fire, Boulder Beach popups should only trigger once now upon completion of the relevant skill checks. When the battle is done, you'll find yourself in a karma deficit with the Powder Gangers, but that's okay, because you'll have a karma surplus with the residents of Goodspring. If everyones gonna die, theres no reason to talk to anyone. Meyers won't be able to be the Sheriff of Primm, and you wontbe abke to do the mission to clear out the Prison for the NCR. Version 1.0. Can You Beat Fallout New Vegas By Killing Everyone?Mitten Squad Discord link: http://www.Mitten.Land/#MittensMojaveMassacreCheck out some of my other videos if you liked this one:Can You Beat Bioshock With Only A Wrench? FALLOUT NEW VEGAS My tips It may not be the best 1.Make sure you listen to what everybody has to say 2.Only take stuff from bodies that you need! (1) Talk to Sunny Smiles about fighting the Powder Gangers. after he is dealt with, return to Eddie and let him know Chavez is handled to gain Powder Gangers fame +1. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. Waited a bit and went back and everything was fine. Doing so caused me to lose karma. (reference begins at 8:29:51), This page is about the Powders Gangers faction. Moralistic answer: Stealing from thieves means you aren't any better than they are. When you're done at Doc Mitchell's house, you can visit Victor at his shack and get some extra fire power added to the fight for minor effort. One may need to remove and then put the Powder Gangers faction armor back on to reset rep back to neutral, and also wait around until they no longer sense the player character, so they no longer appear as hostile. 1K. After the majority of the Vault 19 Powder Gangers joined the Great Khans, the weaker members scattered throughout the Mojave Wasteland. This quest is given by Eddie at the NCR Correctional Facility in the administration building. He is seriously one of the most underrated modders of Bethesda games and I use his mods every playthrough. Once you're inside, you'll find Sunny and her dog Cheyenne right off the bat. [7] Eventually, the gangers established a sizable presence outside the prison, with a ring of camps around it, focused on raiding caravans that tried to push through to Vegas and launch attacks to terrorize the local towns of Goodsprings, Sloan and Primm. Like Sunny, Doc will be easy enough to convince. The smaller groups of Powder Gangers are all lead by a strong or cunning underboss, like Joe Cobb. Form ID A couple of them have nothing more than melee weapons, and will thus rush your position from the outset of the battle. But even if you failed at convincing everyone that you need their help, that's okay. Fallout: New Vegas There is an effect, though not a huge one on the overall plot. Your best bet is to take refuge behind the cart in front of the Prospector Saloon, which should guard you pretty well against the gunfire from the Powder Gangers. If yes then you need help buddy. Happens every time. There are several ways to go about this. After the Vault 19 Powder Gang surrendered to the NCR, they were re-incorporated into the correctional system. The following list tells you their locations. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. He will say that the NCR is already here, and tell the player character to feel free to kill some of them on the way out. Sergeant Lee and the NCR Correctional Facility still I couldn . Hereafter, be sure you find Ringo and speak with him, since he'll give you a hundred Caps for your help. Killing the prison/wasteland powdergangers didn't make the vault 19 powder gangers attack me on site. As soon as the powder ganger in the bar makes his threat to the woman, it's the strangest thing, but his head explodes. Technical This is a textbook example of why modding FO3 & mentions of it on these forums is relevant to this day. If the Courier has acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder . Unfortunately, getting her involved in this fray is going to require a bit of convincing, just as Sunny promised it would. Several lines that were meant to fire once but didn't have been patched. At this point, Sunny will show up. I had this problem but didn't do the quest. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. The favored and most common weapons among the Powder Gangers are explosives, primarily the powder charges and dynamite which they acquired during their time in prison and escape. When you arrive there, you'll find the man in question. Please present your passport. However, you and he can't deal with it alone. There are factions of Powder Gangers spread far along the southwestern part of the Mojave Wasteland, all the way down towards Nipton.[10]. Offers a reason for non-evil characters to begin "I Fought The Law". One can also try to sneak behind the computer on his desk and back away. use a stealth boy and do sneak attack crits to kill all the bodyguards/guards/dogs. A new reformist Powder Ganger faction based in Westside, Faction presence increases as the player does quests for them, including a new store and patrols, Ties into the vanilla reputation system without locking out players. The quest log and marker should now update on acquiring the Viper Mine stash. All rights reserved. The first Powder Ganger you meet is threatening the people who are helping you. There's no way around that. Organizations Thanks for the quick response. (5) Join up with Sunny. If Lee dies during the assault, no NCR reputation will be gained. (3) (Optional) Speak with Doc Mitchell, Chet, Trudy and Easy Pete about acquiring their help. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Then wear a uniform and start the mission. Xbox Game Pass Is Having its Best Stretch Ever, The Simpsons Hit and Run Designer Wants to See a Remake - IGN Daily Fix. I didnt help anyone, btw i helped ncr to protect primm so im done with primm rn, thanks for the tip again. Citizens of the NCR were favorite targets, and they always suffered the worst fates. Share. The quest will end once Eddie is dead, but as the Powder Gangers will rush out into the courtyard for the battle, Eddie will most likely be one of the last Powder Gangers alive anyway. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? And theres only so many ways I can describe killing people, the Paul writing this right now is unsure of how hes gonna handle that. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings This provided an opportunity that the inmates seized to stage a prison break. Samuel Cooke Those traits are from a mod. This quest is given by Eddie at the NCR Correctional Facility in the administration building. Divisions This means that stealing items owned by the Powder Gangers faction will incur negative Karma. He won't just give it away to you, however. However, if the player character uses the above method, all the NCR troopers inside the administration center will be hostile to them from that point on (even days or weeks later) if they ever enter the area without an NCR faction disguise equipped. It can be done, but it is finnicky, needs a lot of reloading, and very precise movement. The Powder Gangers were essentially the Season 1 bad guys of a TV show before the real, big baddies show up. The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The bodyguard next to the merchant and every guard in the admin building recognises you, so you cannot shop or do the quests for them. There are a lot of characters to meet in Fallout New Vegas. Recently I was purging the correctional facility of the Powder Gangers, and while I was doing that I took supplies from a medical box on the wall. That pressing issue, of course, is taking on Cobb and his friends. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. It only changes depending on if you helped or betrayed Eddie during the NCRCF questline. Well in that case you have to read yourself into the world of console commands. Ramirez and Timbo have had their volume boosted. [2][3] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. This is a game where your decisions are meant to stick. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I Fought the Law is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas. They've been nothing but trouble for us - why would we want one of them anywhere in an official capacity? Speak with her, and you'll be able to engage her in conversation about the plight of Ringo, and taking on Joe Cobb and his gang. Working on the Chain Gang - A Powder Ganger Quest Mod. All the stages have multiple possible solution methods, depending on how you prefer to handle stuff, and in the final stage of the quest, you can betray the powder gangers to the NCR and help the NCR attack the place. Not the most immersive, but you get used to it. use a stealth boy and pick pocket the keys from the guard then talk to the sherif then hi tail your ass outta there. Killing him or his crew after convincing him to move on also does not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. Head back over to the Prospector Saloon. I think you can still help Boxcars, too. The NCR reputation is gained by speaking with Lee after Eddie dies. The guns you hear going off all around you are the other Powder Gangers, armed with an assortment of firearms. Close . (2) Return to Ringo and let him know that Sunny Smiles has agreed to help you fight the Powder New quests and weapons that are accessible even if the vanilla Powder Gangers already hate your guts! The Prospector's Den quest marker updates after talking to Ian. This means the mod will no longer conflict with other mods that edit I Fought The Law. Nash will provide the information for: Hayes will only tell the player character that military orders are classified, unless they already know - either by pickpocketing the "Military orders" off him, and/or by getting the information from Nash first. For the Powder Ganger character, see, Do not kill Eddie and complete the endgame quest. Valve Corporation. Mojave Wasteland:Hunter's farmInterstate 15NCR Correctional FacilityPowder Ganger camp eastPowder Ganger camp northPowder Ganger camp southPowder Ganger camp westPrimmVault 19Whittaker farmstead I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. New weapons with unique textures (as of v1.5)! Just to give some context, this is a spoiler so mute for the next 4 seconds if you care. By doing this it is also possible to gain the rewards for helping Eddie (300 XP instead of the normal 200), only become shunned (Powder Ganger camps will not attack the player character) by the Powder Gangers (. Indeed, you'll find many of the decisions you make in the game to meander towards similar this-or-that scenarios. 9 Intelligence for points when leveling up, Luck for critical shots and the casino if necessary, charisma is a dump, speech is for nerds, and the rest are spread out evenly.