The draconian laws in the UK need to be changed, why don`t you allow people to carry an authorized license, perhaps similar to a shotgun license, where you take an 18-year (one-day) course that allows you to wear a non-lethal pepper spray for self-defense? Illegal on airplanes and in most countries. for self defense against aggressive drunks and thieves. If a would be assailant is prepared to inflict harm on another person in the course of a crime, it would be reasonable to expect that they would deserve some form of retaliation in return. You are charged for the illegal possession of a handgun. I believe you can get it at the DM drugstore. There are certain jurisdictions where it is legal for a person under 18 to have pepper spray. Taking Pepper Spray to Europe IS NOT a good idea! EDIT: Also, I'm still extremely shaky, panicky, and emotional about it all so please be nice while replying, not sure I can deal with being blasted right now. Apparently it stinks so much people start gagging and run away, and if you get UV marker on them it assists the police in tracing. Thanks everyone. I carry home made pepper spray. It's called Tierabwehrspray animal repellent for that reason. Just go get the police. However, if a good is sold openly at a reputable business (rather than off of . Purchase. Just don't givr them any attention, period. . However, some states have regulations on the type, strength, and size of the spray. Then Holland or Germany, at least the western part. In Norway, pepper spray is illegal for civilians. Long story short, while having a cigarette in my garden in the early hours of yesterday morning a man entered my garden in, what I assume, was an attempt to enter my house. Use against humans is legal. The regulations on this vary by country, and in some it's considered a prohibited weapon. someone wanted something, they would more than likely cleverly (but safely) pick your pocket/purse/backpack. Pepper spray can be legally purchased and used in Canada if: A) The spray clearly indicates on its dispenser that it is intended for animal, such as bear mace, and not human use Some studies have found no adverse effects beyond the effects described above. [22] [23] However, some scientific studies argue that the claim of choking the position due to one-off pressure on a person is a myth. In Switzerland, pepper sprays are classified as a self-defence device (not a weapon) and can be carried by anyone. Something about this just doesn't kinda read quite right? Also of note the only people who may legally sell pepper spray and other self-defense sprays in the state are those who are also licensed to sell firearms. Its ownership, carry and use by common citizens is banned under Section 5 (1) (b) of the Firearms Act 1968. Whatever. Well, either they're selling illegal stuff, or pepper spray is legal. Pepperspray is allowed here, possesion is legal and usage against animals is legal, usage against humans isn't. Before buying pepper spray, purchasers have to fill out a form stating that they are of legal age and have a clean record. Mace Brand is actually a brand of pepper spray. Pepper spray is legal in every state, but each has its own pepper spray laws. Pepper spray is almost completely banned in the UK. So you can't mace a drunk just because you feel insecure in his presence. In addition, it is only in 2 places to be alowed, hidden on you or locked up safely, if you break the rules, go to jail. Whether such a spray is necessary depends on where you live, but if it gives you peace of mind go for the animal repellant. Ha! Let us know in the comments below. Megan, Assault is a very rear crime in most of Western Europe, so much so that it is likely to make the front page of the newspapers on a slow day. New Jersey has no prohibition on the formulation of a defense spray so long as it is not intended to produce permanent injury or incapacitation. Of the hopes that dazzled the last twenty years that some political movement might tend to the betterment of the human lot, little remains above ground but the tattered slogans of the past.John Dos Passos (18961970), In Europe art has to a large degree taken the place of religion. I guess I just have to quit over thinking and live life. yes , the way uk cities have become with immigrants from war torn countries who have brought horrible crimes such as acid attacks and gangs raping and grooming teen girls we should be able to use tasers and Cs gas for defense, do research. Scan this QR code to download the app now. You may carry such sprays openly or concealed without the need for any concealed weapons permit or other special permission. The usage against other humans is just allowed if its because of self-defence or defence of a third person. In the Netherlands pepper spray is illegal for civilians to own and carry. In Germany, they are about the only people allowed to carry it. It's the only way self defense makes any sense. Megan the answer to your question is no, pepper spray is not needed. IF (if!!!!!!) Megan, I've been watching. You can keep a pepper spray for safety, but for safety only. Another Asian came to home invade us at 12 at night trying to brake the front door. In Berlin, it has only been. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.pfefferspray-rettet.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/ptb-reizstoffe.png. Required fields are marked *. The supplier must have the know-how for the distribution of particularly dangerous chemicals. Personally, I try to stay away from anywhere that requires me to arrive "packin" a weapon. Self-defense sprays are categorized as weapons in New Jersey. Possession, carrying and use by ordinary citizens is prohibited under section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968. I was never trying to start a riot or cause any harm. Additionally, any gas, powder, or liquid spray capable of hurting or immobilizing someone is prohibited. Self-defense products in high demand in Germany. But you will need to prove you were acting in necessary self-defense. However it is legal to carry only those under 20 grams of payload, and NON-pepper ones. But it is still regulated. So CS, CN, CR are LEGAL. She is just inexperienced, and in her own words, her "Americanized" way of thinking, along with probably a little nervousness about the whole undertaking, is leading her to question everything she has read or been told. In Russia, pepper sprays are classified as a self-defence device (not a weapon) and can be carried by anyone over 18. The advantage here is, that it was developed for the use against animals (works for humans too) and is not mention in the german gun law so anyone of any age can carry it around. Sorry but I don't think it's illegal. Pepper Sprays are legal in Germany but require a "kleiner Waffenschein". Currently its ownership, carry and use by common citizens is banned under Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968. Pepper spray in the UK carries the same legal penalties as carrying a gun does. The purchase, possession and transport of pepper spray is legal in Germany, provided that the can is visibly identified as a means of repellent against animals and that the range of the spray does not exceed 2 meters. The police cannot protect everyone from assault, so every law-abiding British citizen has the right and duty to protect themselves and their loved ones. And buy a personal defense weapon if you pass psychiatrist testing and pass all The courses buy a safe to. GRAFENWHR, Germany German laws allow you to wear certain forms of pepper spray, but army regulations prohibit you from putting it on the post. In Portugal, it is possible for civilians who do not have criminal records to get police permits to purchase from gun shops, carry, and use OC sprays with a maximum concentration of 5%. Dig around in the Trip Report section for a thread called 'No Place Special'. It depends Before you get a criminal charge in a police stop please check the following. Also its only to br alowed in 2 places, concealed on you or safe locked up if you break the rules you go prison. Edit 2: For clarification: These animal sprays need to be labled as such not to require a type of arms license. France: It is legal for anyone over the age of 18 to buy pepper spray from a military armory or surplus business. This tool shall not be used to threaten, coerce, or harm another individual or animal unless the same is attempted on you. Thank you so much! In the Czech Republic, pepper spray is not classified as weapon and its possession is legal. The head of the FBI`s less-than-lethal weapons program at the time of the 1991 study, Special Agent Thomas W. W. Ward, was fired by the FBI and sentenced to two months in prison for receiving payments from a pepper spray manufacturer while he was conducting and writing the FBI study that eventually approved pepper spray for FBI use. https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/pepper-spray-europe/. The only acceptable and legal use of pepper spray is for self-defense, which means when you or another person's life is in danger. Guard Dog Pepper Spray. It means that anyone who wants extra security can buy and carry defense. My parents never had the money or opportunity to do something like this, and so they can't help me. At least in Bayern it is so. Because a lot of these bogus asylum seekers come from misogynistic societies mostly islamic ones where they are told that unveiled women white women especially are fair game to be sexually assaulted. You're sitting around worrying yourslef into a corner. CS sprays bearing a test mark of the MPA may be owned and carried by anyone over the age of 14. This is against the law in Japan, as pocket knives are regarded as weapons. It is legal to buy pepper spray which stays it's against dogs, however it's illegal if it's says it's against humans. By Jim Dwyer. I think the "system" is easier to follow in Germany than is the case in France if you don't know the language. Yes, it should be legalized 100%. Pepper spray is a widely recognised non-lethal deterrent that can be used for self-defence, ultimately reducing the risks of assault for both women and men. Yes. The military carrier permit is granted after having spent half a day of training. Pepper spray is sold in Germany to anyone over the age of 18, as a defence against wild animals. Possession of this spray by persons other than Garda is an offence under the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act, as the spray is legally classed as a firearm. The repellant can technically be pepper spray, as long as it's designated purpose is to fend off animals. I now believe Megan is not a serious poster ( hesitate to use the "t" word) but if she is, she should never leave Wilkesboro. In Lithuania, every stabbing attack was stopped by pepper spray. Wikipedia says: While pepper spray is not meant to be used against people, it's ok to use it for defending yourself or others: You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. It was pretty common for young women to carry it for self-protection. None are illegal to carry. In America it seems rather to be science.Johan Huizinga (18721945), Students For A Democratic Society (2006 Organization). Carrying a knife with a locking blade, or a folding blade longer than 5.5 cm (around two inches), is illegal in Japan. Isnt it your God given right to preserve your life? State law prohibits carrying pepper spray in a school without permission from school authorities. It is illegal to buy pepper spray in Australia across its States and Territories, except Western Australia. Pepper spray is almost completely banned in the UK. Would that not be tie ideal outcome from an attack irrespective weather or not you are made or female? Singapore: Travellers are prohibited from bringing pepper spray into the country, and it is illegal for the public to possess it. ** SABRE pepper sprays are available in various sizes of containers, including mini and compact models designed to be conveniently attached to your keychain for easy access at a moment's notice. A lawsuit filed by a Muslim advocacy group alleges that corrections officers at a Missouri prison used pepper spray on Muslims while they were praying and then . CS, CR, PAM (), and (rarely) CN are also legal and highly popular. If you decided to use it, you could very easily be arrested and face prosecution. You must only purchase pepper spray from a licensed firearms dealer. Otherwise youre up in court on a few charges. Alaska: Pepper sprays and gels cannot be sold to minors. I strongly reject. Is it legal here to have pepper spray, and if so, where can I get some in Berlin? Der Einsatz von Tierabwehrspray gegen Menschen kann bestraft werden (Gefhrliche Krperverletzung), soweit kein Rechtfertigungsgrund wie Notwehr oder Nothilfe vorliegt. For (proven) self defense any necessary measure is legal. CS gas canisters, pepper sprays and other self defence sprays; high voltage electric stun guns; high-powered air rifles and pistols; . It is an offense to use pepper spray on anyone for reasons other than self-defense. No. If you already have one which doesn't have any of the mentioned labels please be aware that the police (if they stop you randomly) will file a charge for owning a forbidden weapon. There are 2 kind of legal sprays you can buy and carry around in Germany: - One with a certification mark from the "PTB" or the "BKA" (mostly CS spray, which was developed for use against people) like https://www.pfefferspray-rettet.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/ptb-reizstoffe.png. I'm not quite sure why you think that sort of thing would be necessary? Its ownership, carry and use by common citizens is banned under Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968. This was introduced following the shooting of a number of mentally ill citizens in 2006, where 4 people were killed. :) In all seriousness, take the necessary precautions to be safe, as you would anywhere. You can use it against any animal for any reason. From a woman who has travelled solo.Your best "weapon" is common sense. Pepper spray is not allowed to hold in Sweden without special permission. Pepper spray should definitely be legal in the UK with all these knife attacks, I would like to be able to carry at least pepper spray but even better would be a SW .44 pistol and a .32 ankle holster. I am firm believer in asking questions. Unlike self defense in most other countries, German self defense covers every means that is effective. Your email address will not be published. I believe you can get it at the DM drugstore. The only people who can carry these are law enforcement and the military. Travel is easy. Therefore actual pepper spray is designed to cause the attacker harm: this is considered illegal in the UK. Pepper spray would also be allowed outside the home in certain situations, para. Personally, I carry Fox Spray and give it out to all my loved ones because ya never know. Maenner also stressed that it is illegal to wear any form of pepper spray, regardless of its purpose, at demonstrations and large public gatherings. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. You can defend yourself with whatever means necessary to fend off an attacker, however you can't keep attacking someone who is no longer a threat. Quit worrying about the junk and concentrate on what you want to see. While some have no restrictions on carrying pepper spray, others permit it with varying conditions. Possession is illegal for anyone other than police officers, police officers (auxiliary police), security guards of public transport companies and customs officers to carry a paprika spray. At least pepper spray should be allowed for women if not for man to carry last month 2 women been killed with knife in the park here near Wembley, London by 18 pakistani walking the opposite side of the city to look for a victim in the dark. Arkansas: Pepper spray and gel canisters cannot exceed 150 cc or 5.07 fluid oz. Starting in 2008, police officers began wearing pepper spray as part of their standard equipment. I want something to protect myself. This means that you cannot carry more than 4.99 ounces in a single container. [29] It is a federal offence to carry or send pepper spray on board a commercial aircraft or to possess it beyond the security metal detectors at the airport []. The study from two universities stressed that no pressure should be exerted on the neck area. Conclusions based on bum/incomplete scoop ain't so good. I will stop posting from now on and just go with the flow. Rather, the sprays are designed to mark an attacker with both a visible and invisible marker dye. In Germany, the only allowed pepper spray is for the defense against animals. It can only be distributed to buyers over the age of 18 and against eviction. It is not life threatening like carrying a knife, or a gun, the knife crime in this country is so high now that I can not for the life of me think why having a pepper spray of some sort for self defense is illegal, My son was robbed at knife point, and beaten, carrying a can of pepper spray would make him and us, as parents feel safer, against criminals, I mean its not going to kill them but would maybe prevent an attack of any kind. Farewell. And buy a personal defense weapon if you pass the psychiatrist tests and pass all the courses to buy a safe. Legal in all 50 states, although some apply restrictions, pepper spray is affordable and easy to use. As someone else posted, the carrying or use of pepper spray is illegal in most European countries and those that allow it, only allow it for protection against dogs and bears. However, there is no restriction for pepper gas pistol cartridges. Some guy attacks you. I dont think that anyone should have to apply for a license to protect themselves with a non lethal tool. During the 1980s and earlier, wasp spray was incredibly effective. Keep it and never listen to Cary it has been revealed, or under the influence of alcohol (just your prison for that), if you go out for a pint, you have to leave our house. Thank you all for your help and advice! I think everything that is harming towards other persons is illegal in Germany. If you travel smartly (see the "Safety" section on this site) and imagine that you are in your own town not a dangerous U.S. city, you will have a Wonderful and Safe trip. For example you are supposed to limit force to an amount necessary to escape. In Latvia, pepper spray in canisters is classified as a self-defence device and can be bought and carried by anyone over 16 years of age. Cheers! Lots of women European, American, Asian, Austrailian travel on their own in Europe, solo and in pairs. Its is the criminal problem that causing problems for who its need to be used. All hurt like shit. Therefore, it is entirely legal to use pepper spray in appropriate situations throughout the United States, including in the act of self defense, however you must make sure that you follow . Its pretty worthless as a defensive weapon, but it gives the schweinbraten and gulaschsuppe a nice little kick. Pasting a mugger with shaving foam or toothpaste just is not going to cut it, but it would be normal to think that a criminal would think twice about the possibility that they may end up with a face full of Mace. Most people from all countries, creeds and colours are law abiding citizens. What ever you do, make sure you're in danger. So I would say yes to the British, to be allowed to use pepper spray under the controlled license in a secret position to fend off potential murderers. Self-service is not permitted and the customer must be informed of safe storage, use and disposal. I have one of those at home. You are going to leave your jewelry at home. Much more likely somebody would try to rob you here in US than in Europe. Felons and other restricted persons may not possess . You really have been so sweet to me. Saves them having to carry pepper sprays or other weapons if they know that crime is rife in that area. Since I'm from Louisiana, I always bring a travel-sized bottle of Tabasco in my checked luggage. They concluded that the person`s weight is not scientifically sufficient to stop a person`s breathing with the rest of their body. Please assign a menu to the primary menu location under. The use by the security services of public transport companies is also authorised after obtaining permission from the minister of internal affairs. After 12 months of research on #funeraryarchaeology and #textiles in ancient #Nubia we are ready to sh https://t.co/wVMts32hUe, 1,2,3ready to start the workshop Funerary Textiles In Situ @PCMA_UW @EuroWeb4 #ancienttextiles #archaeology https://t.co/xKqEgWAYI6. She said she'd tell her son to get me a can that I can keep in my pocket if I'm out in my garden late at night. is also authorized after approval by the Minister of the Interior. It also comes under the UK firearms law and is in the same category as a firearm, so we, the general public, can't use it. Jo, In Germany, they are about the only people allowed to carry it. One trip will solve most of those problems. You may even face deportation from the UK. Sign up for a new account in our community. This is the subreddit for all questions regarding Germany, Germans and life in Germany. - And the other one have labels like "Tierabwehrspray" or "zur Tierabwehr" (or in other varitations). The invisible UV marker dye helps identify an attacker, even if they try to wash it off. No. The use against people is legal. So please update your answer. For more information about this regulation you can visit the TSA website, opens in a new window. Rape,murder and crime thats all they bring send them back. Pepper spray / mace - defence against dog attacks. German law somewhat bizarrely distinguishes between OC (pepper) spays intended for use against animals and sprays intended for use against humans. She had a pre-booked trip, but hadn't packed. However, there is animal repellant that is very similar and doesn't need such an arms license. Understand that if you email us, you are agreeing to the use of an unsecured method and understand that all replies will be sent in the same fashion, which you are hereby authorizing. Pepper spray is illegal, while bear spray isn't If you participate in outdoor activities like hiking and camping, bear spray is necessary, which is why it's legal. Europe is generally quite safe, aside from the risks posed by pickpockets and other scammers. Megan, That question has been asked before on the HelpLine, so I'll reiterate some of the comments I've used in the past. Police officers are allowed to carry pepper spray as part of their standard equipment. I deal with two small banks who are used to me so they don't mess with my atm cards - - had I to deal with somebody else, that'd be a during hours call. animals. That also applies if you have to defend others. Screw the police. I'm sitting here dorking around on the computer waiting for a couple of things to get taken care of. Its non lethal and a deterrent. The purchaser also cannot have a record of assault or felony convictions in any state. In general, if someone is so drunk that they are more of a danger to themselves than to anyone else, you have to first avoid. I have had a BIG problem with stalkers lately. Anything necessary to protect your life or protect you from harm is legal. In Germany, pepper sprays labelled for the purpose of defense against animals may be owned and carried by anyone (even minors). In germany you are allowed to carry pepper spray as a defense against animals, the can should be marked with "Tierabwehr" or "Spray gegen tiere" if it has it not, its illegal! In Denmark, possession of pepper spray is illegal for private citizens. "Using mace or using pepper spray, definitely on some level is appealing or at least having it in my . In Italy OC (pepper spray) is considered a self-defense weapon and it is legal to own it when the active principle is less than 10%. It is legal to buy pepper spray which stays it's against dogs, however it's illegal if it's says it's against humans. EDIT: note that the writer of these lines know shit about law in Germany, so the judge might put you in jail anyways, despite my protests and deepest sympathies. [43] South Korea: Pepper sprays containing OC are legal. Justified use against humans as self-defence is allowed. Police carry OC sprays of higher concentration. As I said in my other post, I used to carry pepper spray myself. With all the kidnappings, rapes & murders of recent times & past & the threat of it, with hardly any real solid defence against it, I think it is entirely reasonable for civilians (especially women) to have the option to apply for a licence & buy one directly from select government approved & watched shops with non-fungible token (NFT) tracking them so if stopped the police can track the pepper spray directly back to the original purchaser to see if A. the pepper spray is legal or an illegally bought spray, B. that the person holding it is the officially licenced holder & that their licence is up to date C. the incident it is used in & others that they have used pepper spray to defend themselves in the past is all recorded & tracked on the blockchain on the NFT. In addition to the TSA restrictions for flights, it's illegal in many countries in Europe. Generally as an Alternative UK Legal Pepper Spray for self defence this product ticks all the boxes and is something to consider for all the family, especially . I might be a bit extreme, but if I'm going out alone I usually take off around seven-thirty in the evening. Therefore pepper spray is legal, however there are a couple of rules that you must follow. In the Czech Republic, Spain, Austria, Poland, Russia possession is legal by most civilians. Possession, carrying and use by ordinary citizens is prohibited under section 5 (1) (b) of the Firearms Act 1968. Yes, pepper spray and other self defence items should items should be legal and feely available to 5hose that feel the need to posses them as they well feel the need ton protect themselves and pepper spray is a fairly harmless way of enduring ones safety as opposed to carrying a knife or similar weapons that could kill. Salt shakers are okay. And when prosecuted its a very high percentage of immigrants being convicted for these crimes. When I visited Paris in 1998 I saw pepper spray and collapsing billy clubs for sale at a surplus store. If you fail to meet the relevant legal requirements, the . If they can, so can you. Yet, what if I bought a bigger spray bottle and took it with me to Europe, would the airports allow me to take it with me? Even if you could, why do you think you would need it? However, there are so-called self-defense spays that are legal in the UK. I thought that if someone was trying to rob me, then I could spray them and get away. Lots of those items for sale, like billy clubs and pepper spray are for official security guards and postal workers, and they aren't meant for the general public. She's in Antarctica. Sprays intended for use against animals like the ones the postal workers carry aren't -- legally -- weapons at all but tools, and can therefore be owned and carried by anybody. There must be demand for these items; otherwise the stores would not waste valuable shelf space on them. I never thought of such a thing. Why do you think someone would try to rob you? Therefore, manufacturing, selling, or using goods comparable to pepper spray is a criminal offence according to Canada self-defence laws. So if someone steals your iPhone today, you won`t be able to spray it when you see it next week. Switzerland: It is classified as a self-defense device (not a weapon) and can be worn by anyone after registering as a user of such sprays. It's why Chiu and other legal experts urge caution when carrying and using the devices. There have been few controlled clinical trials on the human health effects of pepper spray marketed for police use, and these studies are contradictory. Believe it or not, in the UK pepper spray / CS Gas is considered a firearm and carries the same legal penalties as carrying a gun does! As pointed out above, I say also that pepper spray in your possesion is a bad idea, even if it WERE not prohibited by TSA..still a bad idea, ie., don't consider it. Read more about this topic: Pepper Spray, Legality, The Cold War began with the division of Europe. Oh ok. Yet you owned the gun illegally. It is obviously considered not to be a safe area to be in and this would be a warning to others. If enough people shout loud enough, maybe we can be heard? Police officers carry pepper spray as part of their standard equipment. In Switzerland, Germany, and Portugal, pepper spray requires a license. Pepper spray is illegal in most of Australia, including NSW. Regarding crime: Petty crime such as pickpocketing, your falling for scams, eg., "Do you speak English?"