The pay scale offered is not "borderline exploitative", it IS exploitative. Grumpy old man can be Ebenezer Scrooge. Bottom line: Supply and Demand principles are at play. Or to put it another way, by year six, First Officers at Breeze Airways end up making almost half as much as JetBlue Co-Pilots. Wont fly them with this info. In youth I worked fast food full-time for many years. In fact, the concept seems brilliant and hope I make it through the process and get selected. The number of terrible domestic airlines keeps increasing. share. There will be plenty of applicants! I think Breeze will likely be cheaper while SW offers 2 free checked bags. Makes sense, and given right now there is a surplus of supply of pilots in the market they are able to lower wages to increase profits and thus be more likely to succeed. You and your self-interested cronies don't get to decide what type of jobs people choose to take. An airline that keeps harassing me with upsell offers on my purchase? They pack you in like lemmings in the dorms and during spring break we slept 12 to a hotel room. Spirit may have higher "margins", i.e. A new airline that bills itself as "seriously nice" first took to the skies in 2021. Our Pilots are overall Leaders who safely take care of our Team Members and Guests. At least here they will learn something. Getting paid $30-$40,000 isnt enough to keep most from leaving after a year. Seems oppressive, so they wont be seeing my business. My point is: Why pay more if you don't have to? I'm a 'union guy' for sure. Failing that, they were determined to not pay one dime more than their competition. I worked my way through college and I would have LOVED to have free housing provided. They are offering an employment model that will appeal to some people and no other airline can/will match it so the cost differences should be sustainable. I'm much more concerned about the pilot pay scale than whatever arrangement Breeze works out with its FAs. When I spoke to Utah Valley Univ recruiters they hinted heavily the program was designed for the under 25 crowd. This hasnt been without controversy, though. 1) Free Housing! The pay scale also looks good. Thanks !! Second, the amount of flights they'll even have to offer in their first year or two is relatively small but not surprising for the type of flying they're doingie. What do you make of these Breeze insights? But after all these furloughed guys get hired, who then? I'm a flight attendant for JetBlue Airways and I make $56 per hour, that is, after 15 years but still. And that doesn't include per diem. Joined APC: Jan 2006. Hopefully professional pilots will take a hard look at other careers before accepting garbage like this. I will never fly them, nor will I encourage anyone to work for them or fly them, until they pay real, market rates. I would have jumped at this deal in college. Meanwhile my friends will be stuck in their entry-level cubicles. I don't know if they will succeed, but credit them for thinking outside the box. I explained more in my previous posts. David Neeleman has always been a skinflint. If a pilot gets into a successful start up, the long term benefit to quality of life could be substantial and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. If you are a green bean rookie like Cricket than you will imagine that you have won the lottery.. Must be at least 23 years old at the time of hire, Must have 1,500+ hours total time (not including simulator and/or Flight Engineer time), Current First-Class FAA Medical Certificate, Valid FCC Radiotelephone Operators Permit, Must have or be able to obtain a valid U.S. drivers license, Must have or be able to obtain a valid passport, Must be able to travel unrestricted to and from the United States, Must have authorization to work in the United States as defined by the Immigration Reform Act of 1986, High school diploma or equivalent educational achievement, FAA Unrestricted Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate with airplane multi-engine class rating, Must have a minimum of 3,000 hours fixed wing time. You have 7 days to get yourself there, find a place, sign a lease, move in, get airport badges and be ready to fly on day 8.). Breeze Airways is a new airline that's expected to launch in the US in early 2021. I think the deal is too good to be true while others think it's chump change and will never work. And they likely will try to launch with no union, am I right? And many of the commenters on here will fill seats when UA is 5x the price on the same route regardless of what they think of labor rights or real college education. Let's ask Don Burr how his cult airline worked out? And there are always plenty more ready to come into the pipeline. You can work at a lot of fast food places and now get $15 an hour plus benefits. Technology is greatuntil something goes wrong. The airline carrier has opted to utilize a fleet of Embraer 195s. These days she brings home a little bit more than that: she earned it. Mar 22, 2022 #1 Effective immediately: 6-year scale Year 1: $25.00 -27.00 (depending on experience) Year 6: $34.00 . the recruiters told me: *No insurance provided. This was the skybus business plan. Please use the form below to submit updates and corrections to the airline information found on this site. I could not afford to live in SFO and couldn't find another crashpad with openings unless I hot racked. There have been several regionals that have gone under recently which have temporarily flooded the market with pilots. Or maybe the extension to San Francisco's Oakland Bay Bridge, built entirely in China, shipped across the ocean in pieces, and bolted together by 100% American union labor for a living wage. The wont to have pilots on there books, but wont have at the beginnig a lot of flightsSo from a business point it makes sence to have more pilots who only fligh 55h instead of having less pilots with 75h. Nice. They will also receive $6,000 towards tuition for online coursework and company housing. It's official: Breeze is no different from any other creepy Mormon MLM scheme. People in that position have the option of not working and watching their skills and socialization go fallow, or working and having the first and last dollar of their income taxed at 70% and more under federal and state taxation. The comments about this airline attracting the bottom of the barrel are unfair considering the circumstances. Well what about Maintenance. $1,200 a month is an embarrassment. Some will likely say that Breeze Airways proposed pilot pay is the free market at work, with so many pilots furloughed or laid off. MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands 2) housing: I am curious what housing? On the small regional hops, inexperience is almost the default. Unions. Anyone with a college degree need not apply to be a flight attendant, while the only reason to become a pilot at Breeze is if you have no other options pay is roughly on par with regionals, while requirements are significantly higher. @Wendy B Gates - Breeze didn't specifically tell me I'm too old, they said I was overqualified. Schmucks! Even with the limited details we know, its clear Breeze will be different than other airlines, from its approach to hiring flight attendants, to its cost structure, to its fleet. They had over a hundred applicants. NGPA Expo - February 9-10 in PSP Booth 525, Women in Aviation - February 23-25 in LGB - Booth 549, TPNx April 21-22 in MCO, Currently hiring E190/195 and A220 First Officers, E190/195 Captains, and Australian Pilots that hold or have previously held an E-3 visa, New hire classes every month for the E190/195 and A220, Scheduled passenger service on the E190/195 flying consists of day trips (no overnights) with limited flying on Tuesday and Wednesday, Charter business is very robust on the E190/195 Charter flights may operate any day of the week, A220 operates a traditional schedule 7 days per week, Significant growth and expansion planned over the next 5 years, Breeze flies to 30+ cities from coast to coast, Eight A220s delivered as of August 2022 - 73 more to be delivered and options for 40 more, Ejet fleet projected to grow to 30 by 2025, A220 fleet is projected to grow to nearly 60 by the end of 2025, A new training center opened in SLC with one E190/195 simulator and one A220 simulator, $200 million in funding was raised in August of 2021. Keep working at it, maybe you'll can find an unpaid internship on Arsenio. Does this really qualify as an "internship"? You think the fact they've bought a union card somehow empowers them with experience? 1200 a month is laughable and embarrassingly low. Guess if you cannot beat them, whisper sweet anti-mormon cult. Nice, new and nonstop. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. It's silly to ape outrage when we don't know a lot of the details of the actual work and schedule. If a for-profit-company hires someone and calls an "intern," that person is still an employee and subject to all of the requirements of the FLSA, The sharpest students looking for a college education do not choose online learning only from a second-tier state school. I don't see a huge ad component to revenue, which isn't how he ran JetBlue when he started it in the lowest point of the dotcom bust era. That sounds part time and probably better since you are getting paid for all of your time. Split a very inexpensive room with one or two others and have a fun time. There are many young people that lack the $$ or choose not to go into debt (student loan/s) for a traditional higher education. If the labor model is as stupid and exploitative as you seem to believe it is, it will fail. @samuel. Monty, I interviewed at Breeze a few months back. I suppose they could be selling the dream of having high seniority at the airline as it grows, with hope of better pay in the future, but. Not my kind of thing. Expect PGD, IAG, SFB, ORH, RFD, PIT and to change seasonally. I hope it does not come off the ground and if it does, it goes bankrupt after a week. Guess which days you're going to be working? The wont to have pilots on there books, but wont have at the beginnig a lot of flightsSo from a business point it makes sence to have more pilots who only fligh 55h instead of having less pilots with 75h. To work part-time only, with no benefits, as an "intern". Great article !!! The *interns* that get suckered into this are clearly being taken advantage of and exploited. Its all about price. I suspect the *average* monthly paid hours across the whole year will be a lot higher. Clearly Breeze has already figured out that people who fall into their trap will regret their circumstances; that's why Breeze is also making them sign a 4-year contract. Pre-Order now!Pre-Order Inflight A359FJ0623 1:200 Fiji Airways Airbus A350-941Highly detailed diecast pre-finished collector model airplane. 3) People as interns/college kids: I would like to have a job for life. Everyone should apply. My only other option right now is to start all over at another regional where the pay, seniority, and quality of life will be much lower. As a former 40 year flight attendant, I can assure you if there is an emergency on board, you will be in much better off and in much more capable hands with a 25-40 year flight attendant than a 20 year old airhead! Salary; Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time ORF: Breeze Aviation Group: Norfolk, VA: $34K-$53K: Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time PVU: Breeze Aviation Group: Provo, UT: $39K-$60K: Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time TPA: Breeze Aviation Group: Tampa, FL: $33K-$53K: Intern Procurement - Summer 2023: Breeze Aviation . All around me were developers making millions of dollars of year in salary and stock options, and there was little old me, paid hourly making about $28,000 a year in an expensive city. Will they get pilots? Are they being put up in an extended stay type compound? I make it to one-on-one video interview and was told I was too old to join program. Seems like they could be taking advantage of this particular moment in time, and the situation the industry is in. To that end, it's not that much different than regular college life (many students work part time), but you won't burden yourself with huge college debt because those kids won't have to worry about tuition and housing. Given the circumstances, the airline carrier will be in dire need of profits to recoup its initial investments. Is this how people select doctors? There are young people for whom a collegial work environment and highly social university-style housing would be quite appealing while they build skills. Many of those interns go on to be millionaires, build businesses, and manage to be +5 insightful and funny.